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spore-slider
spore-slider

well in any case thank you for the bead of incredibly rare and expensive metal, but there is a slight minor problem in the fact that last time I checked I’m not an atium misting…? I don’t think I can burn this…?

unless it’s like lerasium, I suppose…

research time!!

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hoidmadeittoearth
hoidmadeittoearth
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dabblingreturns
dabblingreturns

Just started Well of Ascension for the first time.

And let me just say, I don’t think that only mistborn can use atium, only that the cost of identifying atium based mistlings is prohibitively expensive.

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purple-egg-yolk
purple-egg-yolk

*Burns atium to beat you in rock paper scissors*

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varteeny1234
varteeny1234

Do you think Atium hurts, when a Fool dies?

Atium is Fool. Fool is Atium. Atium is both Fool’s god and a part of him. He is not the Librarian, it is not his job to know the happenings in each Fool’s life, but he is still his god.

Does he know when a Fool shatters, when a piece of the being that they are dies forever?

Does he feel regret, that he couldn’t save Fool before, and still cannot now? Fools only shatter because Atium couldn’t piece him back together fully

Does Atium watch as a Fool cries, breaking apart, unable to help him? Watch as the Fool falls apart into nothing, crying out to his god to save him, while his god wishes just as badly he was able to

Do you think Golden prayed, when he died?

Could Atium hear him?

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purple-egg-yolk
purple-egg-yolk

Shallan making images of herself jumping in different directions in ch 28 is so similar to atium, I love it

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madkat-stuff-has-moved
madkat-stuff-has-moved

Been a while since I’ve posted Atium…

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madkat-stuff-has-moved
madkat-stuff-has-moved

Coming in with a new Minecraft skin I made! this one is Atium (based on all the other pieces of art that I have made for him)!

(Skin Map Below):

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(The skin is still so small and I don’t know how to fix it…)

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madkat-stuff-has-moved
madkat-stuff-has-moved

hey, I know this is going to sound a bit weird but if anyone knows what Atium sounds like, whether through any recordings or Minecraft book writings or whatever, could you share that with me? Please and thank you

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butwhybother
butwhybother

Fuzz said of Ruin, “His essence seeps out in natural forms. Solid, liquid, gas.” Solid would be Atium beads, of course. But liquid and gas? Were there other forms of Atium that occurred naturally?

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kelsierfortnite
kelsierfortnite

● ●● ● ● Some atium for you in these hard times. so that you always look forward to the future

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enbeemagical
enbeemagical

What I want to know is why the Lord Ruler hid all the atium instead of giving it out and letting people burn it away. Once it’s burned it’s gone, right? And Ruin can’t re-create it

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onlycosmere
onlycosmere

Questioner: If someone was to burn atium while playing a video game, how much would they be able to see?

Brandon Sanderson: I’m gonna say that it’s gonna be somewhat confusing to them, but atium enhances your ability to react to what is being inputted, as well. Like, you see all these things, but you also gain supernatural ability to react. So they would see kind of a big blur on the screen, but they would be able to interpret that, and they would be fine.

You would be the ultimate Smash player.

Questioner: Would they be able to see their own character’s movements?

Brandon Sanderson: What their own character would be doing in the future? So, usually, when I’m doing the atium shadows, it doesn’t include you. So it’s not going to include your own character’s movements.

Questioner: If it were a game where the entire screen moves with you as you move around? Or would that also not show up?

Brandon Sanderson: No, you’d get a big blur. You’d get a huge blur of stuff on the screen, but your brain would be able to interpret it, and you’d be, like, 360 no scoping right and left.

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starry-voids-deactivated
starry-voids-deactivated

I don’t think Brandon Sanderson should ever use the word atrium in the Mistborn books where atium is a thing

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butwhybother
butwhybother

I wonder what would happen if a Mistborn burned Duralumin and Atium at the same time.

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diphemerald
diphemerald

Sorry Ati, not for you.

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diphemerald
diphemerald

It’s time to roast Ati😏

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lesbianshanventure
lesbianshanventure

Wild mistborn/cosmere rambles ahead. Long post. Big spoilers for all cosmere. Read at your own risk.

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Kingsdaughter613
Primary question: Peter recently said something about atium in Era 1 actually being an atium-electrum alloy, which is called nalatium. Is this accurate?

Brandon Sanderson
This is accurate, yes.
You could, by the way, just continue to call it atium. That’s what they think atium is in-world. It’s very slightly tainted.

Kingsdaughter613
Secondary questions: If the above is yes, did Kelsier get malatium by separating the atium and gold from the silver in nalatium? If so, do atium and gold have similar melting points?

Brandon Sanderson
That’s more of a RAFO in that I’m not sure I want to canonize any of that right now.

Footnote: Peter’s comment did not give the alloy a name, Adam misread the sentence where the questioner provided their own name for it.
YouTube Spoiler Stream 3 (Dec. 16, 2021)

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And here is Peter’s comment, mentioned in the footnote.

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Xais56
Brandon has said that everyone ought to be able to burn Atium, like they can all burn Lerasium, and the fact that they can’t was an oversight on his part that he would’ve done different in hindsight.
Maybe now he’s had an in-universe reason to re-write the laws of allomancy it’s back to his intended concept; Mistborn burn all 16 base metals, mistings burn one base metal, non-allomancers can only burn godmetal.

Peter Ahlstrom
My explanation for this is that Preservation somehow caused all naturally occurring atium to form as an alloy of atium and electrum. The atium Mistings were actually electrum Mistings.

Xais56
It’s a very tidy solution, but it creates the maddening question of what does pure atium do?

Peter Ahlstrom
That answer has already been revealed canonically. RAFO.

Footnote: Brandon later confirmed that this is indeed the case.
General Reddit 2021 (Nov. 2, 2021)                    

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Ramblings Begin

Fascinating new WOB. So “Atium”, as we’ve seen it, is actually an atium/electrum alloy??? I didn’t expect that honestly, which I really could have cause Atium has honestly always been a bit weird. It seemed way too weak, given that it is a god metal, and the fact that not everyone could burn it did seem rather odd, since we know anyone and everyone can burn lerasium. And the hemalurgy table does say that Atium can steal any power but that it “must be refined”, so this does all check out. This is probably still a retcon and not the original plan, but if so it’s a retcon that seems to have been in the works for a while.

(Side note: If you don’t need to be an allomancer to burn atium or lerasium, is there any reason you need to be for any other godmetal? Can anyone anywhere in the cosmere swallow some godmetal and burn it as long as they have Intent? That is how it works with Hemalurgy. Hmmm. I’d love to see someone in stormlight try this now that we’ve had Raysium introduced. Plus, there is that chunk of an honorblade sitting around uselessly in some field lol, as someone mentioned in another question in that spoilerstream.)

So that of course begs the question of what does pure Atium do? Peter says that this has been not just revealed, but canonized (ie, in one of the books) so based on that I’m guessing this is about Elend’s vision at the end of Hero of Ages. Cause that did seem like more than just a more powerful version of normal Atium.

So what about all the other Atium alloys? What do they do?? And only a person who can burn Metal A can burn a godmetal alloy of Metal A? Is that true for all godmetals? I think it’s been implied that a Lerasium/metal alloy makes you a misting of that metal so that’s… quite useless lol. Even more useless than it already was, since you had lerasium on hand and are using it to turn yourself into a misting instead of a mistborn.

And all “Atium mistborn” are actually electrum mistborn? Do people in world know this? Probably not right? Cause there’s not any atium left to test out anything on.

Okay, and what about Feruchemy? Based on what Sazed said, it seems like it was relatively common knowledge among the Keepers that Atium is rather useless for feruchemy, it just stores age, but they would have been experimenting with the Electrum!Atium presumably so we actually have no idea what its feruchemical properties are. I’d assume that if an Electrum ferring god their hands on Electrum!Atium, they could store in it but no other ferrings could, just like with allomancy. So storing age is a function of Electrum!Atium not pure atium. (And maybe that’s why preservation did this whole thing. So that the lord ruler could make himself immortal. That would make a lot of sense.) So what does pure atium do feruchemically? I have no idea!!! We don’t know that with lerasium either I don’t think. Or harmonium. God I want to know so much more about godmetals.

But we *do* know what pure atium does in hemalurgy, if my interpretation is correct. Cause as I mentioned earlier, the hemalurgy table says that Atium “requires refinement” to be able to steal any power, so I assume they’re actually working with pure atium. But *why* did the inquisitors think to refine it for hemalurgy, but not for allomancy or feruchemy? or did they, and it’s just us that don’t know what it does in those systems and they do. The question still stands though, why did they think to refine it? Did they not get any effect from Electrum!Atium? Why not? That’s really odd. Or if they did, how did they know that Atium is impure? Did the lord ruler know from when he ascended? I mean I guess that would make sense, and it also makes sense that he wouldn’t share that knowledge with the Nobles cause he did hoard all kinds of information and he benefits from keeping things the way they are. We still don’t know what Electrum!Atium does hemalurgically though, which is interesting.

And now onto the elephant in the room: Marsh. He’s still kicking around with a bag full of Electrum!Atium, and the ability to both store in it and to burn it. Do we know anything about the spikes for it? Assuming it’s actually just a spike for electrum power, the one for Allomantic!Electrum should be Cadmium and the one for Feruchemical!Electrum should be gold. They didn’t have Cadmium back then though, so probably it’s an Atium (pure atium) spike, since that can steal any power. His feruchemical one could be too. Has he done any work with pure atium? He seems to be working under Sazed’s command at this point, so probably if he *has* done anything with it it would be cause Sazed wanted him to. (And sazed probably already knows what it does)

In conclusion: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

So there are two things I want to ask brandon that I think have a chance of being answered:

  • can any (non-alloy) godmetal be burned by anyone who has Intent?
  • What does Electrum!Atium do hemalurgically, and why isn’t that on the hemalurgy table?


Feel free to add on with your own rampant speculation, I’d love to hear it!!!!

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butwhybother
butwhybother

Some edible ball bearings nonpareils + tiny glass bottle and some water

Silver color nonpareils, round sprinkles. ALT
Empty miniature glass bottle with a cork. ALT


= Atium

Tiny glass bottle filled with water and one silvery, round sprinkle. ALT


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guyrunsbackwards
guyrunsbackwards

a lil atium on my work apron