oh my god remember when we called the echo oaoa instead of spinning top pre-1.5 and also pre-digging in the files

Its becauaw fishnoid made preservatory and worked on watcher

I know its just done so you don’t end up killing yourself, but I still wonder abt daemon just kind of teleporting you back to the top when you fall off. I like to interpret it as daemon pulling you back towards it, like a miniplanet

cosmic web

UE takes place in a cosmic void inbetween the fractal web of the rest of the cosmos. Probably not literally, but can’t dreams represent things too?

if a void is somewhere outside of the natural web, then yeah

I hate Fetid Glen so much

I see this post struck a chord

Considering the way Shaded Citadel, one of the oldest parts of five pebbles facility grounds situated directly underneath him, isn’t completely leveled and even seems to not be in particularly bad condition, it seems sturdy architecture has simply existed for longer than the iterators themselves, and any new buildings being made would most likely apply any new advancements and techniques used on iterators superstructures

Maybe the internal structure of the bricks and beams is designed to be really good shock absorbents (and microscopic engineering would be easier with purposed organisms acting like organic 3D printers), and the overall structures could have like a juiced up version of the engineering behind earthquake resistant buildings and skyscrapers in general

Beyond that, just work on the site between rain cycles

I’ve sort of been of the thought by the time the iterator rains got awful, the benefactors had already moved up to the surface

There aren’t really any accommodations for workers down there. No unfinished construction outside of unused harvesters. They were probably done with all of that even BEFORE the iterators… or at least the mass introduction of them

They might have just piloted stuff down there like drones, rather than going there on their own

I hate Fetid Glen so much

I hate Fetid Glen so much

I hate Fetid Glen so much

I hate Fetid Glen so much

If the benefactors did not return to the surface after they lived atop iterators, then I would suspect the echoes down below are pre-iterator/early-iterator era. But void baths probably existes before then too

I couldnt tell you for sure but I’m pretty confident saying that the Farm Arrays and Subterranean echoes are pretty old

bruh this cant be real

rain world post breaking containment. NOBODY knows what this thing is

always very funny that both terrace (which yknow, then leads to AU) and outer rim lead to daemon, and yet I rarely see it mentioned that maybe because of this fact, terrace and otr may be in a similar boat to one another? Like, why are they not equals, or at least somewhat equal. Nobody care my Terrace?

Still hate the DP repair microbes. I just think its a mixture of unknown materials and good architecture. Also hey, don’t the subterranean temples survive constant flooding, despite being older than the iterators? Does anybidy even know HOW the microbes repair things or do we justvtake that for granted? Why are they still around when every other purposed organism has branched off the evolutionary tree or seemingly died off. The fucking BACTERIA stayed?? The thing that reproduces quickly and has constant gene edits and horizontal transfer? Do you know how many taboos would have to be placed across microbes on a MASS SCALE? AND ALL OF THEM ARE STILL AROUND? Thats ridiculous. I can tolerate the megamegafauna that the iterators are because I can EXPLAIN their existence at the very least (my spec bio will not go to waste). I cannot explain this to you.

Addendum to that Color Motif post:

Purple and Yellow also just represent “upper” and “lower” layers, judging by how spawn are able to change color depending on whether or not you’re in ripplespace. While I think this doesn’t change the idea that purple is a lower existence and yellow is a higher one, it is also perspective based

Rain World’s Color Motifs

Watcher Spoilers Below BTW

Yellow - Void/Enlightenment/Karma

Basically alignment with and knowledge of the higher non-material realms. I don’t really think I need to explain what it is

EDIT: I should have pointed this out before, but karma flowers have an echo blue aura around them, which I’ll mention later what that means

Green - Stars/Stardust, Iterator lightning, Slag Key

Might actually represent more. I believe it represents memory in a way too, as stardust contains “shedded qualia” from ascended beings. Whatever it is, it seems important

EDIT: Theory changed since 1.5, actually earlier. Stars and star energy are something else… not stated anywhere or made all too obvious, but MY theory is that it is inherently protective.

(There are green sparkles in the dust in 3rd gif)

Blue - Iterator Neurons, FP rot

FP’s rot is blue BECAUSE of the neurons, considering the rot is consuming it. In Garbage Wastes it turns brown and weakens for this same reason too

Blue-Grey - Ripplespace/Echoes/Daemon

A transitional plane of sorts, or what lies between the planes. Background noise? Something of that nature.

Good to note here is that the ripplespace you reach through your abilities and daemon appear to be on slightly different layers as well

Purple - Rot/Entropy/Basal Existence

What I mean by that last part is that rot is the most basic a living thing can get. Just consume and reproduce. Nothing else. Cyclical entanglement to the highest order. It’s literally even sticky!

White - The Egg?

This one is the least important currently but…

I’ve seen white glow show up in both the neuronglow, the ascension ending, and behind the karma. I feel like it means something, but I will be honest… I’m not sure. I still want to note it here.

EDIT: My theory is that it DOES just represent the egg, which is wholeness. Not really ascension itself? Its something that ALL your selves across the cycles share. The egg and the karma. Obviously there’s more but these are the most important. I don’t think its JUST enlightenment

#1 reason I don’t believe in nultiverse theory. You don’t play Downpour, die, then somehow end up in an alternate version of yourself playing Vanilla

Same in Watcher’s prologue. You don’t decide to wake up in vanilla

Multiple selves, not multiple timelines

Whatever world youre in, you tend to… STAY in thst world? Things dont change in that way

#1 reason I don’t believe in nultiverse theory. You don’t play Downpour, die, then somehow end up in an alternate version of yourself playing Vanilla

Same in Watcher’s prologue. You don’t decide to wake up in vanilla

Multiple selves, not multiple timelines

saw a posts

Do I think the 3 vanilla campaigns happened in Watcher? don’t care. Doesn’t Matter

Did Downpour happen? Fuck no. Doesn’t matter either. Does Watcher still reuse Downpour’s ideas while not being directly connected to it? Yes, Watcher does this like 70 times with all the modded regions and repurposed creatures (rot lizards)

Seriously, I don’t think these details matter to Watcher like, at ALL. Why bother?

Do I think the 3 vanilla campaigns happened in Watcher? don’t care. Doesn’t Matter

Did Downpour happen? Fuck no. Doesn’t matter either. Does Watcher still reuse Downpour’s ideas while not being directly connected to it? Yes, Watcher does this like 70 times with all the modded regions and repurposed creatures (rot lizards)

the 3 pillars represent the 3 paths one can take at the end of their life, perhaps? Ascension (ST), death (Prince), or going on to help those who will come after you (Weaver). Not too sure yet but I just had that thought

When I genuinely tried to consider the “the 3 waves are the 3 slugcat campaigns” thing, I rationalized them as 3 philosophies, 3 ways to approach the path and those waves you’ll make. Again, do not fucking know. I might be stuck on that stupid notion of self pearl for eons if I keep doing this

oh man the migration path pearl. it’s weird how the only logical conclusions that could be drawn from it are explicitly meta while most other pearls feel more grounded to the Watcher campaign and the general setting of vanilla rain world–

WELL there is the Signal Spires pearl having that fucking drone from the artificer campign but it’s even more of a… non-sequitor? with the rest of watcher that it feels more like a cheeky reference than actually being usable to draw solid connections with Downpour

though i did make a worse mistake when trying to connect brain trees to DP so I can’t blame anyone else who does genuinely believe the spires pearls means the two dlc are connected

to add to the 3 rivers being the 3 vanilla slugcats, i’ve heard from others that the five spokes of the star could be referring to the 5 campaigns in Downpour, and then there’s the line in the next paragraph:

“…first a notion of the multiple self, then a cosmic intercedence and expansion, and then when deflated the self is transformed…”

the way this and the previous paragraph listing the 3 then 5 then 3 notions of self, as if the previous one leads into the other, does coincide with the release order of Rain World and its subsequent DLCs, with Watcher supposedly tying up loose ends

though for the DP and Watcher connection and the whole “DP isn’t canon” thing, all this means is that Multiverse Theory is Real™ and so both take place in seperate realms but ultimately still in the same universe. which. i mean. *gestures towards DP getting what The Solution is/the iterators’ purpose wrong* I guess??

See, what I’m going off here is less that watcher connecta to both dp and vanilla outside of a few stolen ideas/creatures, and is instead only directly referencing vanilla and using its themes and such, whether or not theyre different canons, this is the logic that applies to watcher’s world. Maybe the “3 vanilla campaigns” does not apply to vanilla itself or downpour. Could not care less abt Watcher connecting to DP

I thought there was an old post after the brain world lore posting spiral of getting hung up about the signal spires pearl but I could have also confused with other lore discussions you weren’t even a part of

I was also pretty hung up about the explicit mention of 5 so I wanted to mention it as I wasn’t sure how THAT would fit in with the 3 paths

five karma

the 3 pillars represent the 3 paths one can take at the end of their life, perhaps? Ascension (ST), death (Prince), or going on to help those who will come after you (Weaver). Not too sure yet but I just had that thought

When I genuinely tried to consider the “the 3 waves are the 3 slugcat campaigns” thing, I rationalized them as 3 philosophies, 3 ways to approach the path and those waves you’ll make. Again, do not fucking know. I might be stuck on that stupid notion of self pearl for eons if I keep doing this

oh man the migration path pearl. it’s weird how the only logical conclusions that could be drawn from it are explicitly meta while most other pearls feel more grounded to the Watcher campaign and the general setting of vanilla rain world–

WELL there is the Signal Spires pearl having that fucking drone from the artificer campign but it’s even more of a… non-sequitor? with the rest of watcher that it feels more like a cheeky reference than actually being usable to draw solid connections with Downpour

though i did make a worse mistake when trying to connect brain trees to DP so I can’t blame anyone else who does genuinely believe the spires pearls means the two dlc are connected

to add to the 3 rivers being the 3 vanilla slugcats, i’ve heard from others that the five spokes of the star could be referring to the 5 campaigns in Downpour, and then there’s the line in the next paragraph:

“…first a notion of the multiple self, then a cosmic intercedence and expansion, and then when deflated the self is transformed…”

the way this and the previous paragraph listing the 3 then 5 then 3 notions of self, as if the previous one leads into the other, does coincide with the release order of Rain World and its subsequent DLCs, with Watcher supposedly tying up loose ends

though for the DP and Watcher connection and the whole “DP isn’t canon” thing, all this means is that Multiverse Theory is Real™ and so both take place in seperate realms but ultimately still in the same universe. which. i mean. *gestures towards DP getting what The Solution is/the iterators’ purpose wrong* I guess??

See, what I’m going off here is less that watcher connecta to both dp and vanilla outside of a few stolen ideas/creatures, and is instead only directly referencing vanilla and using its themes and such, whether or not theyre different canons, this is the logic that applies to watcher’s world. Maybe the “3 vanilla campaigns” does not apply to vanilla itself or downpour. Could not care less abt Watcher connecting to DP

the 3 pillars represent the 3 paths one can take at the end of their life, perhaps? Ascension (ST), death (Prince), or going on to help those who will come after you (Weaver). Not too sure yet but I just had that thought

When I genuinely tried to consider the “the 3 waves are the 3 slugcat campaigns” thing, I rationalized them as 3 philosophies, 3 ways to approach the path and those waves you’ll make. Again, do not fucking know. I might be stuck on that stupid notion of self pearl for eons if I keep doing this

the 3 pillars represent the 3 paths one can take at the end of their life, perhaps? Ascension (ST), death (Prince), or going on to help those who will come after you (Weaver). Not too sure yet but I just had that thought

I’m a big hater of the idea that FP took some of the slag keys because theres never a visual indicator or anything or even him directly saying “btw I took some keys” like who started this idea I’m going to stare at them angrily and not do anything about it

He says “this isn’t for me” and “a few keys does the job but moon needs all the help she can get” and “there isnt much to be done for me” dude I do not think those keys are going to do Anything for the rot othrr thsn delay it by a few cycles. Meanwhile moon is Dead on the Floor and he very clearly knows this .

edit: nowadays I can see the idea of him copying down some of the keys for himself to at least offset the rot a little bit. I do understand that.

But don’t think he outright stole the slag keys, and even then I do believe the wording in his “one or two will work” was moreso implying that the 16 keys was a bit overkill when just 1 would’ve done the job for moon

wroang blog :(

I think Rain World being flat doesn’t make sense because previously the devs have clearly tip toed around the idea of whether or not the world is a sphere or not. I think the only reason people think that is because they take Outer Rim at face value as being a 100% real and totally believable place, where its normal if the sky falls and the land slowly crumbles off into oblivion

Its not flat its not any shape, it doesn’t matter. Why would it matter- why would the world be eaten from the SIDE? When we’re told its from the BOTTOM

I think Rain World being flat doesn’t make sense because previously the devs have clearly tip toed around the idea of whether or not the world is a sphere or not. I think the only reason people think that is because they take Outer Rim at face value as being a 100% real and totally believable place, where its normal if the sky falls and the land slowly crumbles off into oblivion